A Conversation with a Jew from Israel
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Part 2:
The following conversation on Gab is with Nick0 who is a Jew from Israel.
Nick0,
😂😂😂
you Christians are pathetic!!!
this is king James bible translation which is fabricated, to enhance ur faith, in hebrew its completely different.
what low can u steep, to change the original, that is the word of god, not ur king james fabrication.
its so sad.
Andrew,
The King James Bible is the Word of God for English speaking people. I am assuming you are a Jew, since we Christians are "pathetic."
Nick0,
yup, they are.
u cannot change the original old testament, fabricate it, and read from it, to tap ur own shoulder, its sad and pathetic, u are like Muslims, liars.
why do u support the fabrication of the original word of god?
its not the truth, and u live in a lie.
thank god that save us from u.
Andrew,
I will pray for your lost soul, antichrist Jew. May you find the peace of Christ that surpasses all understanding. 🙏
Nick0,
ur prays are not needed, when ever i pray god listen.
i saw sam shamoun, hes strong on Muslims, he cant debate with original old testament.
king james translation is fabrication, literally what u posted is skewed and not the truth.
Andrew,
I have already prayed for you.
Nick0,
go educate urself, stop stealing jewish people bible, learn the original
Andrew,
I am educated in Christ my Redeemer, the true Messiah.
Nick0,
ur lying to urself.
against the original unchanged bible, which doesn't belong to you.
poor Christians, stealing the original word of god, change it to support their lies, to have a religion.
Andrew,
Did not the prophets rebuke Israel?
Nick0,
no!
what u posted in English, and i checked the bible, is not the same!
king james bible is a lie!
not original translation, and not faithful to the source
Andrew,
Then you are the liar. The prophets clearly rebuked Israel, numerous times.
Nick0,
the liar call me a liar!
LOL
the prophet promises that we, ISRAEL will return to the land.
verse 3 and 4
3. and u said to the land of israel, so said GOD (not "the lord" ur pitiful translation) here i am to you, and i pulled my sword from its case, and i knew from you righteous or evil"
4. and i knew from you righteous or evil, so my sword will come out of its case unto all flesh from negev(south) and north"
just a taste, ur translation is so demented and skewed, its insane.
only in the last month i discovered sam shamous, saw him destroying Muslims like pancakes, and he said jesus is in the old testament, im not scholar, but i knew hes lying.
ur translation in NOT ORIGINAL, james bible is miss interpreting a lot of passages.
Andrew,
Those in Christ will return to the land. We are the true Israel of God. You are of Esau, we are of Jacob.
Nick0,
emm nope, LOL.
its pathetic, show me the evidence in old testament, and i will shut up.
or stop lying.
Andrew,
Nick0,
do u know what it mean?
please translate it for me, because it is original passage.
Andrew,
Ezekiel 33:11 KJV Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Nick0,
try to understand.
as i live, not as a person, "chhy ani" its a swear to them(like i promise) in his name, as long as i live \exist.
neom adonai - the god speech\ god words.
first time i try to translate it to english.
so what is the evidence here?
Andrew,
The LORD is rebuking the House of Israel through His prophet Ezekiel. He is calling the House of Israel to repentance.
Nick0,
its not ur lord.
its GOD, creator of all things.
he calls for Israel to repent, yes.
again, where is ur evidence that jesus is mentioned in old testament?
Andrew,
You said that Israel was not rebuked, now you admit that Israel was called to repentance, which is a rebuke.
As for the evidence of Jesus in the Old Testament, read Isaiah 53 for starters.
Also,
Exodus 3:14 KJV And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
John 8:58 KJV Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Nick0,
i thought rebuked was cast a side or threw away.
i checked its the same as to repent.
i read yechezkel 53, in original form, not mention of jesus there.
Andrew,
Those who know the New Testament clearly see Jesus in Isaiah 53.
Andrew,
Jesus is LORD. Jesus is the Son of God and one with GOD.
Nick0,
nope.
its ur words and fallacy, not according to god of the bible, god of israel.
that never said he will appear as a men or will be incarnated as a men
new testament fabrications.
Andrew,
Isaiah 7:14 KJV Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Matthew 1:23 KJV Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Nick0,
give me evidence from old testament only, what ur religion say, is not of my concern, i obliged to the original, unchanged, un fabricated original bible.
the so james crook translator.
checking the first
Andrew,
Nick0,
i checked:
to be honest to go back and forth, is tiresome, not an easy task.
iv'e read the passage you sent me to read in Yeshiahu, 7:14
13 and 14:
13."va yomer - he said(god) to the prophete, tell them: “Listen, House of David,” [Isaiah] retorted, “is it not enough for you to treat men as helpless that you also treat my God as helpless?
14: Assuredly, my Lord will give you a sign of His own accord! Look, the young woman is with child and about to give birth to a son. Let her name him Immanuel
imanual is meaning is emanu = with us. el= god.
Nick0,
its 01:56 am.
after translating it, i feel i could sleep for a week!
btw no virgin is mentioned, again king james crook is ,lying.
alma = young lady.
Andrew,
It can also be translated as virgin.
Nick0,
alma is use to describe a young women, like maiden.
is maiden and virgin have the same meaning?
Andrew,
yes, a young maiden can be a virgin.
Nick0,
it was true it they used the word: Betula.
=
virgin.("she did not know a men.)
100% virgin.
maiden is not equivalent to virgin, its shot in the dark interpretation.
when old testament says virgin its say Betula, not alma.
Andrew,
Get some rest. I am going to have to move on for the evening. But, I do believe our conversation was a divine appointment. These words will not depart from you. Shalom.
Nick0,
thank u Andrew.
i like it, it make me research into bible more, is there a better thing to do in life, than to learn the words of god? no.
and i have learned it after so much experience, composed out of, joy, pain, lust, rage, love etc.
in the end, nothing can give u more peace of mind and purpose like the words of god.
shalom!
or more correctly
lyla tov.
Day 2
Nick0,
u asking me?
my verses are straight from the true original source.
EDOM , is decedent of Esau = all the christian countries today.
i assume u rely on king james bible translation, in reality, king james is not even a prince, at best maybe, a court jester of translation.
Malachi 1 verse 1 to 4:
1. A pronouncement: The word of GOD to Israel through Malachi.
2. have shown you love, said GOD. But you ask, “How have You shown us love?” After all—declares GOD —Esau is Jacob’s brother; yet I have accepted Jacob
3. and have rejected Esau. I have made his hills a desolation, his territory a home for beasts of the desert.
If Edom thinks, “Though crushed, we can build the ruins again,” thus said GOD of Hosts: They may build, but I will tear down. And so they shall be known as the region of wickedness, the people damned forever of GOD.
again, throw away jester james translation.
Andrew,
Spiritually speaking, Edom-Esau are all who are outside of Christ to include the Synagogue of Satan.
Nick0,
what is today synagogue of satan?
Andrew,
Revelation 2:9 KJV I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Revelation 3:9 KJV Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Nick0,
jewish are jews. u can find us in many places over the world, god send us there, after we disobeyed him, and in the end times, he will gather us back.
Andrew,
You are welcome here for this purpose and every image bearer of God, in Christ or not, ought to be treated with love and respect.
Andrew,
Yes, the Jews in Christ will be regathered.
Nick0,
Deuteronomy 5.
verse 6 - 7
I the ETERNAL am your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, the house of bondage:
You shall have no other gods beside Me.
ONE GOD.
Andrew,
GOD is One Being with Three Persons - Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
"Let Us"
Genesis 1:26 KJV And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.
Nick0,
GOD, Hashem, Elohim, say he will gather, after he send them there.
thats what is written very plainly, in Old Testament.
Andrew,
Yes. This gathering is done by GOD - Elohim (plural) for Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Nick0,
its New Testament, doesnt affect me, or related to me.
mine is Old Testament, written by GOD, before every other religion.
maybe its for few people here, that claim to be the REAL Jews.
Andrew,
Did you get a chance to watch this less than 10 minute video?
Nick0,
that is very interesting chapter, from brief reading it does look like, generally speaking about jesus.
i need to look into it, deeper.
Andrew,
Amen. That is why it is forbidden. Peace be with your studies.